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[综合讨论] 为什么菲律宾不像韩国、日本、越南那样属于东亚文化圈?

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Why Philippine is not part of East Asian Cultural Sphere like Korean,Japan and Vietnam

为什么菲律宾不像韩国、日本、越南那样属于东亚文化圈

is a geographic shield or other factor on why china dont totally influence philippine unlike korea japan and vietnam?

是地理屏障还是其他因素导致中国不像对韩国、日本和越南那样完全影响过菲律宾?

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crazyaristocrat66
While the countries of Southeast Asia contain a significant number of people of East Asian descent, majority of these still comprise of people of Austronesian ancestry. There's just shared more shared culture, traditions and values that the Philippines has with Malaysia, Indonesia, and Brunei, that's why.

虽然东南亚国家中有大量的东亚后裔,但其中大多数人的祖先仍是南岛民族。这就是菲律宾与马来西亚、印度尼西亚和文莱拥有更多共同文化、传统和价值观的原因。

Momshie_mo
People from Mainland Southeast Asia are Austroasiatics though

不过自东南亚大陆而来的人是南亚语族

Lumpy-Baseball-8848
Yeah, and the countries listed (Malaysia, Indonesia, and Brunei) are Maritime Southeast Asia.

是的,所列国家(马来西亚、印度尼西亚和文莱)都属于东南亚海洋国家。
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mettamorepoesis
Malaysia is half and half. The peninsular part is technically Mainland Southeast Asia.

马来西亚一半一半。严格来说,半岛部分属于东南亚大陆。

cebu_96
Kinh (Viet) and Khmer people are Austroasiatic. But ethnic groups like Cham and E De are also Austronesians that are native to Vietnam.

京族(越南人)和高棉人属于南亚语族。但占族和鄂德族等少数民族却是越南本土的南岛语族。

mettamorepoesis
The only major Austroasiatic languages in Indochina are Vietnamese and Khmer. All in all it is a hodgepodge of various language families. Burmese is Tibeto-Burman, a distant cousin of Chinese. Thai and Lao belong to the Tai-Kradai family. If you include the Malay peninsula, then Bahasa Melayu as the major representative of Austronesian languages.

印度支那(中南半岛)唯一主要的南亚语系是越南语和高棉语。总之,这是一个由不同语系组成的大杂烩。缅甸语是藏缅语,是汉语的远亲。泰语和老挝语属于台-卡岱语系。如果把马来半岛包括在内,那么马来语就是这里南岛语系的主要代表。
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MutyaPearl
People should understand that overwhelming "central control" only existed when the concept of the "nation-states" got promoted and adopted in the 19th and 20th centuries.

人们应该明白,压倒性的“中央控制”只是在 19 世纪和 20 世纪“民族国家”的概念得到推广和采纳时才出现的。

BambooPrincess99
Because the Chinese only came here to trade and conduct business. Philippines was more Indianized since Hindu-Buddhist influence became deep rooted in our cultures due to continuous interactions with Srivijaya and Majapahit (and maybe even from Indians themselves)
And also, Spain did cut us off from the rest of Asia except China after colonizing us

因为中国人来这里只是为了贸易和做生意。由于与三佛齐和满者伯夷(甚至可能来自印度人本身)的持续互动,菲律宾的印度化程度更高,印度教和佛教的影响在我们的文化中根深蒂固。
此外,西班牙在殖民我们之后,确实切断了我们与除中国之外的亚洲其他地区的联系。

JDNB82
I used to consider Korea as "the Poland of Asia"

我曾经认为韩国是“亚洲的波兰”

saltedgig
more like ukraine, why? because the cossack are the army of russia so is korean the army of japan.

更像乌克兰,为什么?因为哥萨克是俄罗斯军队的前驱,而韩国人是日本军队的前驱。

JDNB82
have never heard that before. If there is any truth in that, it is probably because Korea was colonized for 30 years by Japan.

我以前从未听说过这种说法。如果这句话属实,那可能是因为韩国被日本殖民了 30 年。

lichking247
It may have to be more about post-WW2 era. Which admittedly I'm not too well read on, but most of the geopolitical influences we know today either came about during/after WW1 (the divisions of the Middle-east into zones of control by the French and British for example) or post WW2 (the cold war and its aftermaths which influenced much of world geopolitics today; i.e Velvet Revolution, and breakaway of other communist states)
The Fall of the USSR is a very interesting read since it wasn't a single clean end.

可能更多的是关于二战后。诚然,我对地缘政治不太了解,但我们今天所知的大多数地缘政治影响要么是在一战期间/之后产生的(例如,法国和英国将中东划分为不同的控制区),要么是在二战之后产生的(冷战及其后果影响了当今世界的许多地缘政治,例如天鹅绒革命和其他共产主义国家的分裂)。

《苏联的垮台》是一本非常有趣的读物,因为它的结局耐人寻味。

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